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Good day, all.

A Fourth of July Secret Message:

For more than 200 years, buried deep within Thomas Jefferson's correspondence and papers, there lay a mysterious cipher -- a coded message that appears to have remained unsolved. Until now.

Read the whole thing.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at 07:41 AM

Comments

1 So cool...

Posted by: goddessoftheclassroom at July 03, 2009 07:50 AM (cojWg)

2
And he's totally banging her. It says that 1800 years ago the catholic church conspired to hide the fact that Mary Magdalene conceived a child to Jesus of Nazareth, a line that continues until this very day in a woman who is the descendant of God himself.

Posted by: Entropy at July 03, 2009 08:01 AM (IsLT6)

3 The enclosed cryptic message is sent this July 3rd, the year 2009 to the Pretender-in-Chief, Barack Hussein Obama.
U812 dickbreath!

Posted by: Fish at July 03, 2009 08:03 AM (FnA4R)

4 Why would an inflatable baby need a flotation device? The kid would be buoyant as is.

Posted by: gp at July 03, 2009 08:06 AM (B9rV2)

5 Don't forget to drink your Ovaltine.

Posted by: nickless at July 03, 2009 08:19 AM (MMC8r)

6 A wonderful illustration of how we came to the straights we are in today. We've gone from Presidents who create ciphers for fun, to a pResident who is a cipher--no fun at all.

Posted by: cbullitt at July 03, 2009 08:21 AM (BHv2c)

7 Yes, WAY cool.

Posted by: sickinmass at July 03, 2009 08:23 AM (/i4dU)

8 "I'm watching you, Kenyan".

Posted by: hutch1200 at July 03, 2009 08:27 AM (MA+li)

9 "Don't fuck up all my work, Barry

Posted by: Shit Jefferson ciphered at July 03, 2009 08:28 AM (MA+li)

10 in the spirit of the Jefferson Cipher decoding, I've encoded a secret message using electronic lemon juice, it's here:

-

-

just hold a lightbulb next to the screen to warm it up (turn the light on, moron) and you'll see the secret message.

Posted by: BumperStickerist at July 03, 2009 08:32 AM (ruzrP)

11 Over at CNBC's website they have a piece listing the states with the biggest budget gaps. It's presented in slide show format with a picture of the appropriate state capitol accompanied by a paragraph or two about the state's budget woes, except when they get to Alaska.

Posted by: sandbagger at July 03, 2009 08:33 AM (IcWp3)

12 Biologist, farmer, writer, architect, statesman, geographer...probably a few things I'm forgetting. Jefferson lived at a time when it was possible to become knowledgeable in all fields--not necessarily an expert, but more than "oh, yeah, I heard of that...". Since then, all the scientific fields have exploded. You can pick one of those things and not learn all there is to know. And most people remain ignorant of most fields (see also Congress, regulating technology, health care, the economy, the weather, etc, and most of them not knowing their ass from Al Qaeda).

(I've always had a crush on Jefferson. Probably the red hair.)

Posted by: HeatherRadish at July 03, 2009 08:40 AM (YzDEL)

13 they needed a computer algorithm to figure out what our 18th century founders encoded.....

Posted by: ginaswo/mim at July 03, 2009 08:41 AM (Xp8by)

14 13 they needed a computer algorithm to figure out what our 18th century founders encoded.....
Posted by: ginaswo/mim at July 03, 2009 08:41 AM (Xp8by)

It will take 200 years to undo what Obama is doing to our economy as well. As least Valu-Rite can serve as currency in the meantime.

Posted by: In Exile at July 03, 2009 08:50 AM (T8aoz)

15 11
Over at CNBC's website they have a piece listing the states with the
biggest budget gaps. It's presented in slide show format with a picture
of the appropriate state capitol accompanied by a paragraph or two
about the state's budget woes, except when they get to Alaska.

They also used a photo for New Jersey, why do they hate him?

You know why Michigan isn't on that list? We're cutting our budget by releasing sex offenders. And, if I recall correctly, someone (not sure who exactly, might be someone at the Dept. of Corrections) is teaching them how to bypass their tethers. Thanks Democratic Governor Granholm!

Posted by: shibumi at July 03, 2009 08:50 AM (OKZrE)

16 ginaswo--algorithms are just methods, blueprints if you will. Humans can follow them, computers just follow them faster. Patterson didn't need a computer to create the cypher algorithm...the first programmers (Ada, Babbage) didn't even have electricity.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at July 03, 2009 08:50 AM (YzDEL)

17
Let me know me when we crack the code of "the time is now to act swiftly to take the bold action required to meet the challenges of our time."

Our robot-president has repeated that line (in one form or another) at least a thousand times, and I think it's a secret message from the ancient aliens who built him.

Posted by: Unicle tweets at July 03, 2009 08:52 AM (UU3J6)

18 15
11
Over at CNBC's website they have a piece listing the states with the
biggest budget gaps. It's presented in slide show format with a picture
of the appropriate state capitol accompanied by a paragraph or two
about the state's budget woes, except when they get to Alaska.

They also used a photo for New Jersey, why do they hate him?
Posted by: shibumi at July 03, 2009 08:50 AM (OKZrE)

Alright I got my stupid for the day out of the way for today.

Posted by: sandbagger at July 03, 2009 08:56 AM (IcWp3)

19 Apparently I've got a bit more to go.

Posted by: sandbagger at July 03, 2009 08:57 AM (IcWp3)

20 You mean it wasn't "Help I've fallen and I can't get up"?

Posted by: sixpckr at July 03, 2009 09:04 AM (jyGLF)

21 Patterson was just passing on a list of "easy" girls for Jefferson to call when he came to Philadelphia.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 03, 2009 09:08 AM (9Lm5R)

22 Greatest. Headline. Ever.

Two Mexican Midget Wrestlers Killed by Fake Prostitutes
http://tinyurl.com/nhfdo2

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at July 03, 2009 09:09 AM (x+8M9)

23 Jefferson lived at a time when it was possible to become knowledgeable
in all fields--not necessarily an expert, but more than "oh, yeah, I
heard of that...". Since then, all the scientific fields have
exploded. You can pick one of those things and not learn all there is
to know.

True, but even today you'll very rarely come across someone with the depth of understanding equivalent to the state of knowledge as existed during Jefferson's time across a similarly broad range of subjects.

Posted by: Deety at July 03, 2009 09:11 AM (aVzyR)

24 Yeah they also used a picture for Schwarzenegger. I don't think this is a nefarious plot against Sarah Palin... this time.

Posted by: Jack Hardcore aka chemjeff at July 03, 2009 09:15 AM (nKA5J)

25 "Tom, watch out forSally Hemmings."

Posted by: rdbrewer at July 03, 2009 09:22 AM (OxUet)

26 I need to get out more. If I don't post a comment in 12 hours, send Korean hookers.
On second thought, just send the hookers and we'll see how long until I post again.

Posted by: Atnorth at July 03, 2009 09:23 AM (XH/G8)

27 Vlad strikes back

MOSCOW (Reuters) - Prime Minister Vladimir Putin will use next week's Moscow talks to relieve President Barack Obama of mistaken impressions he remains mired in Cold War thinking, Putin's spokesman said on Firday.

The spokesman was reacting to comments Obama made in a pre-trip
interview. The U.S. leader told the Associated Press that Putin needed
to "understand that the Cold War approach to U.S.-Russian relationship
is outdated" and that Putin had "one foot in the old ways of doing
business."

Putin spokesman Dmitry Peskov, in mildly-expressed comments, said:
"I see that he does not possess full information. After visiting
Moscow, President Obama will know the realities better.

Well, well, well it's good to see that Barry's enlightened diplomacy is working so well. No more of that cowboy stuff that made the world hate us. Vlad is going to school that arrogant, obnoxious douche.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 03, 2009 09:27 AM (1oJ8f)

28 Gawd. Our incompetent leader is about to be rolled by the KGB. Pathetic.

Posted by: Jack Hardcore aka chemjeff at July 03, 2009 09:30 AM (nKA5J)

29 12, Jefferson always reminds me of this Heinlein quote:
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
-Robert A. Heinlein
Sadly, we live if a society mostly composed of insects of insects it seems. No wonder the hive/collective mentality is so strong as to elect the current POTUS.

Posted by: Scott J. at July 03, 2009 09:32 AM (/bVuS)

30 damn...reading that hurt my head.

Posted by: palin steele (the only non-partisan on AoSHQ) at July 03, 2009 09:34 AM (VDj74)

31 When you are scarred for life by the Easter Bunny:

http://tinyurl.com/ntcts5

Posted by: Jack Hardcore aka chemjeff at July 03, 2009 09:36 AM (nKA5J)

32 Is Oregon the only state with a capitol "dome" that looks like un upside-down trashcan? I have seen the pictures of when the original dome of the capitol building burned down (up?). They didn't have the money to build another dome, apparently. Ugly is as ugly does.

Posted by: sherlock at July 03, 2009 09:38 AM (L4jPh)

33 Okay this is just wrong and pathetic on so many levels.

http://tinyurl.com/msg6zk

First: since when is "I need a little affection" a serious sexual comeon?
Second: This is a completely juvenile prank. So why is it the kid's mom that is engaging in this sort of behavior?
Third: Don't the police have better things to do? You know, like make sure my house is weatherized?

Posted by: Jack Hardcore aka chemjeff at July 03, 2009 09:41 AM (nKA5J)

34 NPR this morning in full spin for Obama on Honduras: talking about how most countries have condemned the "coup", including Venezuela, but that Obama's approach has been more "nuanced". For the first time, however, there was a reference to the referendum on extending his term that the ousted president was prepping. This was in an interview with a junior cabinet minister, and the NPR reporter quickly reminded us that the US didnot consider the "non-binding" referendum to be a "threat to the Honduran Constitution". Yeah, it was just for shits and giggles... until, after promising the poor a free pony in every pot, he won. Then it would have been the Voice of the People.
Prediction: NPR is an early harbinger of a shift toward gradually moving Obama to the right side on this issue. But it has to be done carefully, because after sitting on his thumb over the Iranian uprisingfor a week, he jumped right out of the gate on this one, and didn't leave himself any wiggle room. The press certainlyhas to work hard atprotecting Obama from being exposed as the erratic tyro he is.

Posted by: sherlock at July 03, 2009 09:52 AM (L4jPh)

35 @22 I love that! My husband just graduated from business school and they had a party where little people walked around with sombreros on their heads that held chips and salsa. I couldn't believe it. Then we watched The Wizard of Oz last night and couldn't stop giggling. I know, mature, but what can I say. I can't wait to show him that headline.

Posted by: Trish at July 03, 2009 09:54 AM (0U5Kd)

36
Looks like Jonah Goldberg is not so enamored with Sarah Palin anymore...

... the folks at Conservatives4Palin aren't having any of it ... two rebuttals to Goldberg here and here.

Posted by: Gran at July 03, 2009 10:00 AM (kmmbv)

37 Jefferson is way overrated. He allowed that abortion of a Supreme Court decision, Marbury v Madison to stand. That is how we got where we are today.

Posted by: Vic at July 03, 2009 10:02 AM (5ynkO)

38 "For more than 200 years, buried deep within Thomas Jefferson's correspondence and papers, there lay a mysterious cipher -- a coded message that appears to have remained unsolved. Until now."

Cool -- so where's the Knights Templar Treasure?

Posted by: Capt. Numbstick at July 03, 2009 10:02 AM (voIlD)

39 While reading the Biden of Arabia story in the headlines I found this gem.
"A sartorial note for the day: the vice president is wearing tan suede urban combat boots, of the sort ordinarily worn by special response teams and EMTs. They are said to be as light and comfortable as tennis shoes. They laced up and were quite a close match for his khaki suit. After taking a brief walk outside with Stephanopolous to shoot some footage for ABC, the vice president walked in the front door wearing a camouflage ball cap."

Made me throw up in my mouth, a lot.

Posted by: jimmythleg at July 03, 2009 10:03 AM (sGnoA)

40 Cynthia McKinney Remains Imprisoned in Israel After Gaza-Bound Boat Is Seized
BWA HAHA!! Iknewtoday woul dbe a good one!
see fox news

Posted by: dananjcon at July 03, 2009 10:05 AM (1B81L)

41 29-- Actually RAH via Lazarus Long... RAH was a huge influence for me early on and ever since. I consider myself a Heinlein Libertarian. I guess nowadays I refine that to: Robert Heinlein/John Derbyshire atheist/agnostic libertarian.
"The power to tax, once conceded, has no limits; it contains until it destroys." --The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress is essential.
Oh and this from Lazarus Long:
"What are the facts? Again and again and again --- what are the facts? Shun wishful thinking, ignore divine revelation, forget what "the stars foretell", avoid opinion, Care not what the neighbors think, never mind the unguessable "verdict of history" --- what are the facts, and to how many decimal places? You pilot always in to an unknown future; facts are your only chance. Get the facts!"
Amen.

Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at July 03, 2009 10:09 AM (SCcgT)

42 I guess JG is turning into a squish as well. This sentence explains it all:

For starters, every time I see you on TV, you’re whining about unfair press coverage….

Jonah, you ignorant slut, every time you see her on TV you are watching the product of liberal press editing. Do you fucking think that they don’t know what they are doing?

The MSM wants the communists in power and they will issue their propaganda as needed to that end.

Fox wants a liberal squishie Republican in power and they push that end.

We conservatives don’t have any media other than Rush and they are doing everything in their power to destroy him as well.

Posted by: Vic at July 03, 2009 10:09 AM (5ynkO)

43 the vice president is wearing tan suede urban combat boots, of the sort ordinarily worn by special response teams and EMTs. They are said to be as light and comfortable as tennis shoes. They laced up and were quite a close match for his khaki suit. After taking a brief walk outside with Stephanopolous to shoot some footage for ABC, the vice president walked in the front door wearing a camouflage ball cap."
Reminds me of the inept, rather feminine commander in the movie Stripes.
And Goldie Hawn in that other stupid 80's flick.

Posted by: dananjcon at July 03, 2009 10:09 AM (1B81L)

44 Gran @ 36, oh I don't take it that way. I do think some of Jonah's criticisms are valid - she needs to become more wonkish and let platitude-ish. I detect in his article that Jonah wants her to become a better candidate, not that he wants her to fail or anything.

Posted by: Jack Hardcore aka chemjeff at July 03, 2009 10:10 AM (nKA5J)

45 And Goldie Hawn in that other stupid 80's flick.

Private Biden!

Posted by: jimmythleg at July 03, 2009 10:14 AM (sGnoA)

46 NPR.

Feh.

Every word from that fountain of lies is poison.

Posted by: eman at July 03, 2009 10:15 AM (fpywm)

47 The secret message was actually an advertisement for lace wigs

Posted by: Methos at July 03, 2009 10:19 AM (LxYp2)

48 Private Biden!
I like the sound of that, gee ya think"O" is not setting the stylish privateup, in case things go south in Iraq? The guy is shameless.

Posted by: dananjcon at July 03, 2009 10:22 AM (1B81L)

49 Old and priceless! Where do you find 42 midgets, let alone a group of them willing to prove Darwin's theory on Natural Selection?
http://tinyurl.com/8ngpz

Posted by: 12 Inch Middle Finger at July 03, 2009 10:25 AM (n2vBd)

50 Vic @ 42, but Jonah also goes on to praise Sarah's accomplishments and her charisma. I don't think it's fair to call him a "squish". Moreover some of his criticisms are spot-on. She DOES need to stop whining about the unfair press coverage. She will NEVER get favorable press coverage so give it a rest.

Posted by: Jack Hardcore aka chemjeff at July 03, 2009 10:29 AM (nKA5J)

51 Lion Mutilates 42 Midgets in Cambodian Ring-Fight

How did Cambodia's strugglingmidget tossing/ prostitution industry survive that kinda hit??

Posted by: dananjcon at July 03, 2009 10:31 AM (1B81L)

52 Lion Mutilates 42 Midgets in Cambodian Ring-Fight

Fucking anklehumpers

Posted by: The Lion at July 03, 2009 10:33 AM (uwi9h)

53 Here is the highlight from the cipher :
Don't fuck it up Obama!
Wish we had this way of informingthe citizens during our time.
In God we trust. Thomas.

Posted by: scif at July 03, 2009 10:34 AM (6Om+f)

54 A creationist could never have made that cipher.

Posted by: Charles Johnson at July 03, 2009 10:37 AM (5V/kc)

55

@44

Sorry Jack, but Jonah's letter was dripping with DC elitism and condescension. "Now, now, little girl... you don't know what you're doing... let the big Beltway columnist help you find your way."

Is she really whining that much about her coverage? If she's bringing it up then it's probably because she's being asked about it by the Obamatron press.

As far as Palin goes, he and Charles "she's a suicidal pick!" Krauthammer can both go piss up a rope.

Posted by: Gran at July 03, 2009 10:38 AM (kmmbv)

56 She DOES need to stop whining about the unfair press coverage.
She needs to do more photo shoots in tight, little short-shorts.
On the other-hand, I thought JG was respectfully critical but fair.

Posted by: dananjcon at July 03, 2009 10:40 AM (1B81L)

57 just hold a lightbulb next to the screen to warm it up (turn the light on, moron) and you'll see the secret message.

Crap, I should have read this line at the bottom of your post before I grabbed a quarter and started scratching the screen like a lottery ticket.

Posted by: Blazer at July 03, 2009 10:42 AM (AoS9J)

58 Cynthia McKinney Remains Imprisoned in Israel After Gaza-Bound Boat Is Seized
BWA HAHA!! Iknewtoday woul dbe a good one!
see fox news

Maybe she's trying to be the Aunt Jemimah to Rachel Corrie's pancakes.

Posted by: Blazer at July 03, 2009 10:45 AM (AoS9J)

59 Seems the whatever type of Kenyan fruit does not fall far from the tree!
http://tinyurl.com/lbng8f

Posted by: 12 Inch Middle Finger at July 03, 2009 10:47 AM (n2vBd)

60 What the Patterson/Jefferson cipher tells us is how hard it is for even very clever people to create usable hand ciphers that are truly secure in a modern sense. The only hand cipher I know of that has what would be considered genuine cryptographic strength (other than a one-time pad) is the Solitaire cipher from Neal Stephenson's Cryptonomicon.

Posted by: David Gillies at July 03, 2009 10:48 AM (2FZO3)

61 SYDNEY (AFP) –
People who live on vegetarian diets have slightly weaker bones than their meat-eating counterparts, Australian researchers said Thursday.

A joint Australian-Vietnamese study of links between the bones and diet
of more than 2,700 people found that vegetarians had bones five percent
less dense than meat-eaters, said lead researcher Tuan Nguyen.

The issue was most pronounced in vegans, who excluded all animal products from their diet and whose bones were six percent weaker, Nguyen said.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 03, 2009 10:48 AM (1oJ8f)

62 Cynthia McKinney Prison Diary:

"Day 42. Gefilte fish again!"

Posted by: eman at July 03, 2009 10:48 AM (fpywm)

63

Hopefully the IDF will see to it that Ms. McKinney finally gets that rabies shot she's desperately needed for so long.

Posted by: Blazer at July 03, 2009 10:52 AM (AoS9J)

64 Maybe she's trying to be the Aunt Jemimah to Rachel Corrie's pancakes.
Hahahalol, Do they have Denny's rest.in the Gaza strip?

Posted by: dananjcon at July 03, 2009 10:52 AM (1B81L)

65
@58

Maybe she's trying to be the Aunt Jemimah to Rachel Corrie's pancakes.

HAHAHAHA!

Posted by: Gran at July 03, 2009 10:54 AM (kmmbv)

66 From the WaPo's DC lobbyist-Obama admin official- madam story, here is part of the paper's response.
In response to requests for comment, The Post issued a statement that stopped short of canceling the event.

Kris Coratti, communications director of Washington Post Media,a
division of The Washington Post Company, said: “The flier circulated
this morning came out of a business division for conferences and
events, and the newsroom was unaware of such communication. It went out
before it was properly vetted, and this draft does not represent what
the company’s vision for these dinners are, which is meant to be an
independent, policy-oriented event for newsmakers.

“As written, the newsroom could not participate in an event like
this. We do believe there is an opportunity to have a conferences and
events business, and that The Post should be leading these
conversations in Washington, big or small, while maintaining
journalistic integrity. The newsroom will participate where
appropriate.”
This is the main issue afflicting journalism today...not reporting the news, but wanting to create and lead the news, iow, become the actual story. Thus the endless self-interviewing of reporters as "experts" on any number of topics and issues and presenting these charades as "news".

The self-inflicted chalk-line progresses nicely.

Posted by: The Hammer at July 03, 2009 10:54 AM (YBTwf)

67 Here's some disturbing news from the London Times (http://snipurl.com/lphbb):
Iran’s top legislative body announced today that British embassy staff accused of inciting post-election violence will be forced to stand trial in Tehran.
The surprise move by the Guardian Council caused relations between London and the Iranian regime to sink still further ...
Ayatollah Ahmad Jannati, head of the Guardian Council which ratified the presidential election on Monday, said: “In these incidents, [the British] embassy had a presence, some people were arrested. Naturally they will be put on trial, they have made confessions.”
Not to worry, though. The EU is on the case:
After rejecting British and Czech moves to pull out all European ambassadors from Tehran yesterday, the EU agreed [to] a strongly-worded joint letter expected to be published tomorrow.
That'll show 'em.

Posted by: sauropod at July 03, 2009 10:54 AM (r45p0)

68 Dear DNC, here is a free test. Please administer it to your Cap and Trade supporters, starting with Waxman. http://tinyurl.com/af86g. Correction, this should be mandatory for all members of Congress!

Posted by: 12 Inch Middle Finger at July 03, 2009 10:57 AM (n2vBd)

69 The EU must be meat-eaters.

Posted by: dananjcon at July 03, 2009 10:58 AM (1B81L)

70 She will NEVER get favorable press coverage so give it a rest.

There is so much wrong with that statement. You are right though, she will NEVER get anything but BAD press, most of which is a collection of outright lies. We who profess to be conservatives should not repeat ANYTHING that the press says about her.

What we should be doing is repeating the things that people who attend her talks say that she said. We need to cut the media out of any discussion about her whatsoever. This includes Goldberg now.

I agree with Gran. It was an attack.

Posted by: Vic at July 03, 2009 11:03 AM (5ynkO)

71 55, @44Sorry Jack, but Jonah's letter was dripping with DC elitism and condescension. "Now, now, little girl... you don't know what you're doing... let the big Beltway columnist help you find your way."
It might be interesting if she uses that Washinton outsider status to turn the GOP on its ear and start a third party: the conservative party. IMO voters would abandon the clueless, corrupt and increasingly liberal GOP. Most red staters already feel alienated from them already. I think within 6 years the GOP could count on about 5-10% of the overall vote. Folks like Krauthammer would be bewildered and refuse to accept reality that they had isolated themselves from the average everyday Republican voter. When election time came, those 5-10% would probably secretly pull the handle for the conservative candidate anyway as they would know that their own candidate was a wasted vote.
Palin's role in this new party would not be to run as a candidate, but rather to run, shape and mold the new party to be successful and to be a fundraiser/rainmaker. Media types like Beck, Limbaugh, Malkin, and Hannity etc would be the new superstars and liberal north eastern country club repubs left out in the cold.
The power brokers in the GOP are the Washinton insider types that are exactly what is wrong with the party. They have money and plenty of access to power but few votes. IMO they feel that in the last election McCain didn't win because he was not liberal enough. An interesting fact that these folks often overlook about the McCain campaign (and that Schmidt and his ilk are only too painfully aware of) is that it was almost broke before Palin was named. They were in a state of disarray. IMO that was OK with the Krauthammer types because they wanted Republicans to lose so they could play the underdog and get sympathy. Unfortunately it didn't work out that way as the press was delighted and then proceeded to rub an ocean's worth of salt in the wound. The democrats were delighted because the know that they will never be held accountable by any of their ADD voters/press because they are incable of googling history nor remembering any event over 6 months old....

Posted by: Bozo at July 03, 2009 11:11 AM (4uAeQ)

72
Swamp Shark !!eleventy!!

Posted by: Blazer at July 03, 2009 11:14 AM (AoS9J)

73 Sigh. If you actually read Jonah's article you'll see that he dishes out all sorts of praise on Sarah too, and rightly so. She deserves a great deal of praise. I'd vote for Sarah over Romney any day. But she's not God, she's not perfect, she has some work to do. Complaining about the press is one of those things. Look, how else are we going to accept constructive criticism if not from those who are sympathetic to our view in the first place? We understand that "constructive criticism" that comes from Kos or Carville is meaningless. (Same goes about Frum and Noonan.) But from Jonah? Hell he wrote a whole book calling out liberalism for its fascist roots. That doesn't sound like a squish to me.

Posted by: Jack Hardcore aka chemjeff at July 03, 2009 11:16 AM (nKA5J)

74 I often suffer from swamp-ass, I hope i don't get bit.

Posted by: dananjcon at July 03, 2009 11:21 AM (1B81L)

75 Heh:
40
Have you ever wondered why the fluff in your belly button is a uniform blue?

Only after a wild night with Smurfette.

Posted by: Jack Hardcore aka chemjeff at July 03, 2009 11:21 AM (nKA5J)

76 73
I agree JG is not a squish, but Palin won't ever get a break from the movers in her own party because she reminds them of just how irrelevant they themselves are. As far as her not acting like she will run...good. As long as she is out of the official mix, the Democrats can now focus on their real enemies: other democrats. Remember that the diametric opposite of a fanatic is a fanatic. Lets let them destroy themselves from within... If Palin were to run in 2012, the best thing she could do is get nominated by a draft Palin campaign. This would necessarily be grassroots. It would tear folks like Romney to pieces for the primaries and give her a great deal of momentum for the national campaign.

Posted by: Bozo at July 03, 2009 11:28 AM (4uAeQ)

77
@73

"sigh" yourself. I did read it, and I stand by my statements. If you read between the lines, what you'll see is a syrupy "oh, you've done so much, you're this, you're that, blah blah" followed by a big "BUT..." and then he goes in for the patting-on-the-head and the "let the big man help the pretty little Governor" act.

Who the fuck is Goldberg to be advising someone of Palin's accomplishments on how to run their lives and careers? She's done more with her life than he ever will. Would any of us have even heard of him if it weren't for his mother? I think not.

Posted by: Gran at July 03, 2009 11:29 AM (kmmbv)

78 the fluff in my belly contains the key to the mysterious cipher of the POTUS foreign policy.

Posted by: dananjcon at July 03, 2009 11:30 AM (1B81L)

79 Apparently I'm only 16% insane. Looks like I have some work to do.

Posted by: Jack Hardcore aka chemjeff at July 03, 2009 11:30 AM (nKA5J)

80 The problem with the conservative intellectuals isn't that Sarah might not read up and become more policy oriented - they're concerned that she won't read the correct books that shape the intellecutals' philosophy.
Coming from a union background and as someone who started her own small business, Sarah might be more from a Teddy Roosevelt or William Jennings Bryan populist tradition, which threatens the massive corporate interests that backed Bush through most of the decade and Obama now.
Romney, if elected, would surely be a Big Business president. Romney seems intent on doubling down on neoconservative foreign policy. There's no guarantee Sarah will go for either.
Remember, strong defense and the big business neoconservative movement are not one and the same - in fact, they butt heads on important national security issues (immigration, anyone?)

Posted by: The Q at July 03, 2009 11:30 AM (pfStM)

81 For more than 200 years, buried deep within Thomas Jefferson's correspondence and papers.

I'll be in my bunk.

Posted by: Andrew Sullivan at July 03, 2009 11:34 AM (AoS9J)

82
Looks like Jonah Goldberg is not so enamored with Sarah Palin anymore...

Hotair commenters will go apeshit

Posted by: brak at July 03, 2009 11:35 AM (/hUC/)

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They already did. Even Allahpussy is weighing in.

Posted by: Gran at July 03, 2009 11:38 AM (kmmbv)

84 Her actual or precievednaivety or lack of understanding on issuescould be a good thing.We complain about thewonks and talking heads, she is a breath of fresh air(for now). Like JG said , she has to strike that balance betweenher hard core supporters and those who aren't quite sold, tuff to donowadays-you cannot deny the microscope she is under.
And she has towear those tight little running shorts...often!

Posted by: dananjcon at July 03, 2009 11:41 AM (1B81L)

85 Hey, maybe Jg's book sales are slumping. What a better wayto create a buzz, take a kid-glove-jab at one of your own.

Posted by: dananjcon at July 03, 2009 11:45 AM (1B81L)

86 Sarah might be more from a Teddy Roosevelt or William Jennings Bryan populist tradition…

God I hope she is NOTHING like those two. Those two assholes virtually founded the progressive movement.

Posted by: Vic at July 03, 2009 11:53 AM (5ynkO)

87 I love cryptology. I'm reading Cryptomonicon for the 2nd time.
Also, I'm re-posting this tidbit from the ONT because I am still a bit surprised by the change:
Holy cripes, how did I miss this in the news today (from MSNBC):
The Obama administration will proceed with a Bush-era plan to use National Security Agency assistance in screening government computer traffic on private-sector networks, with ATT as the likely test site, according to three current and former government officials.
...
The activities of any private citizen who visits a "dot-gov" Web site or sends an e-mail to a civilian government employee would be screened.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at July 03, 2009 11:55 AM (AJ4xq)

88 That's a fair criticism for every part of the conservative spectrum. You can only complain about the media bias so much. Let it be the elephant in the room that people don't talk about. Don't keep score: "You covered A but didn't cover B!" will rightly come down to apples and oranges for the dull undecided voters..

Posted by: Cincinnatus at July 03, 2009 11:57 AM (K5AMb)

89 God I hope she is NOTHING like those two. Those two assholes virtually founded the progressive movement.
Posted by: Vic at July 03, 2009 11:53 AM (5ynkO)

Thanks for that Vic. I agree those guys are the start of the Statist wing of the Republican Party. My G-d read a history book people.
Also from now on I refer to all Libtards and Squishs as what they are STATISTS!

Read Mark Levin's new book, you'll know why.

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Posted by: Shit Jefferson ciphered at July 03, 2009 12:26 PM (MA+li)

91 I thought Goldberg's piece was basically fair. Palin is diminished in stature every time she gets into a fight with the media or a late-night comic. Not to mention the ongoing trickle of embarrassing revelations about her family, most of whom seem to be auditioning for guest spots on the Ricki Lake Show. Goldberg uses the term "laughingstock." I'd say "sideshow." There's a trailer-trash carnival-midway aura around the Palin clan that's rapidly rendering her unelectable.
I'm not sure it matters much. If the economy recovers anytime in the next three years, Obama will probably be reelected, no matter who is running against him. Even if the economy is still in the toilet, I doubt Palin could defeat an incumbent president with the media wholly on his side. She can give a great speech, but she's terrible in interviews, and she doesn't seem to know the issues. Add in all the personal baggage, and I just don't see what all the excitement is about.

Posted by: sauropod at July 03, 2009 12:37 PM (r45p0)

92 I thought Goldberg's piece was basically fair. Palin is diminished in stature every time she gets into a fight with the media or a late-night comic.

Perhaps you need to read the response from Conservatives4Palin. There has ONLY been 1 time when she spoke out on the media bias and that was in the interview for the documentary film about the media bias.

The comments from the “late night comic” were across the line and needed to be addressed.

Goldberg’s piece was just another opportunistic POS designed to sell copy and push the agenda of the liberal wing of the party.

Posted by: Vic at July 03, 2009 12:47 PM (5ynkO)

93 Hil Rray wl b de scrunt

Posted by: hutch1200 at July 03, 2009 12:48 PM (MA+li)

94 (speaking as a crypto-fan ever since I went to USAFSACS in the air force)

It's remarkable just how far ahead of it's time Jefferson's wheel cipher was. For all practical purposes, it was unbreakable until almost mid-20th century. Even during WW2, it was good enough for low-level communications. The Army used a variant device called the M-138 and the Germans (no slouches at code-breaking) never cracked it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M-94

It's a shame Jefferson's device was used so little by the US. For most of the 18th, 19th and the first 40 years or so of the 20th, the US had crap for crytpo-systems.

BTW, the linked article is referring to a differenty system one of Jefferson's friends came up with. That used pencil and paper - Jefferson used a simple machine for his brilliancy.

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at July 03, 2009 01:08 PM (rCg3B)

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Goldberg responds (sort of)

Posted by: Gran at July 03, 2009 01:16 PM (kmmbv)

96 @91

Palin is diminished in stature every time she gets into a fight with the media or a late-night comic
She didn't pick that fight with Letterman. He started that with his rape "joke". What was she supposed to do - just let it go?

Posted by: Gran at July 03, 2009 01:18 PM (kmmbv)

97 96 She didn't pick that fight with Letterman. He started that with his rape "joke". What was she supposed to do - just let it go?
If some late-night hack had made a tasteless joke about a member of Ronald Reagan's family, the Gipper would have responded with a deft quip and a smile.
Then he would have "let it go." He knew the importance of staying above the fray.
By putting herself on an equal footing with Letterman, Palin diminished herself. After all, no one is going to elect Letterman president.

Posted by: sauropod at July 03, 2009 01:30 PM (r45p0)

98 Gawd. Our incompetent leader is about to be rolled by the KGB. Pathetic.

Posted by: Jack Hardcore aka chemjeff

The old saying about a Conservative being "just a Liberal who has been mugged" bears some truth.

Could not happen to a nicer guy. I will make sure to have popcorn ready.

Posted by: TXMarko at July 03, 2009 02:16 PM (3H436)

99 The Dems just love how we feel so empowered to criticize evenour best, rather than praise them continuously like they do even their worst. It makes it so easy to for the media to torpedo any Republican who has a chance against them. Just listen to what Republican "insiders" are saying and leverage it to the moon!

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